Product design, he says, “has to push the envelope to the point where it seems like you’re making a mistake.” He argues that you have to strive to make a leap far beyond what is possible at the moment. “It has to be audacious from a technical point of view,” he says. “When a little company in Canada decides to build a cellular radio and to build it better than the people who birthed cellular radio—notably Motorola and Ericsson at the time—that’s a big, audacious goal.”